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My condolences.  One thing that I've mentioned a lot on this board is that I am extremely skeptical of a masters in quant finance, and your story is typical.First thing, find the school that gave you the degree, and scream at them.  Find people that you graduated with and collectively scream at the school that gave you the degree.  Having taken your tuition money they have a moral responsibility to get you a job.  You should be furious at the school, and let them know how furious you are.Second, if you are interested in a CS Ph.D. that is a very good choice.  The good thing about a Ph.D. is that you can get one without incurring new debt, and it will help you a lot getting computer positions.  Also work experience in a computer company outside of finance is also very useful.The jobs that you are being steered toward are not what you were promised.  One problem with the term "quant" is that it started getting applied to all sorts of jobs in finance that have nothing to with with quantitative analysis.  The financial crisis basically *killed* any demand for vaiuation of exotic options.  The jobs that exist now are basically pure C++ programming jobs, or essentially filling out forms for government regulators.One rule of thumb is that if you are interviewing for a quant job, and you are talking to an MBA, then it really isn't a quant job.  They are looking for someone to type in numbers into Excel spreadsheets.The other thing is that location is an issue.  There are essentially no entry level quant positions outside of New York City.  If you are in Chicago, there is basically only one employer that hires entry level quants (Citadel).  In Dallas, there is also basically one set of employers that hires entry level quants (HBK and spinoffs).  You might considering contacting some headhunters in NYC before doing a CS Ph.D. to see if that will work.I wish you luck, and you can send me private e-mail if you can think of something I might be able to help you with.

Let’s run a quick thought experiment.Imagine your favourite kind of food. Mine is pizza. So while you read this next part, substitute “pizza” with whatever your favourite kind of food is.Imagine if tomorrow, all the pizza makers in the world decided that they feel their product is worth more than people have traditionally been willing to pay for it. Instead of $30 for a decent pizza with some extra toppings, they’re suddenly going to start charging double that: $60. This is so that the pizza makers can start earning a “living wage.”Can you really not see why that would be upsetting to me? If pizzas are going to double in price overnight, or even over a time span of 5 years, I can guarantee that I’m going to stop eating as much pizza. If the price doubles, I’m probably going to end up buying half as much, because my junk food budget is pretty rigid. Then again, that’d leave half my junk food evenings without any meals to fill them, so the more likely outcome is that I’ll switch over to my second-favourite junk food (let’s say burgers), one that hasn’t had its price increased so arbitrarily, and I’ll just make do with that. Maybe I’ll get pizza twice a year as a special treat, but no more than that.That’s exactly what happens with the proposition of a living wage, and it’s for pretty much the same reasons that some people don’t think it’s a great idea. Just suddenly declaring that a product (in this case, labour) should cost double what it’s been costing up until now (the infamous $15/hr demand) will force many businesses to make do with less labour (hello, automation!), or with cheaper labour (hello, outsourcing to Mexico and China!).The living wage argument is also based on the assumption that every job that exists is somehow worth enough of a wage for the person doing that job to live off. That’s not even close to being true. Who is going to pay Timmy to rake leaves and give him enough money to live comfortably off of it? Some jobs just aren’t worth a living wage. Some jobs have always been meant to be part-time affairs, or entry-level positions designed to prpart of the remuneration in the form of experience (which is crucial to newcomers fresh out of school). When you’re just starting out in the job market, experience is much more important to gain than money (learning how to take orders, how to be proactive, how to survive the corporate fishtank, how to handle customers, how to defer and when—there are hundreds of job-related skills that can’t really be taught in an academic setting, and have to be learned on the job, and I know because I spent 6 years studying and firmly believe I learned most of my job-related skills in that first 6 months of going to work and actually‡ you know, working.)The living wage argument doesn’t take experience into account, which is a big problem with it. It wants to make labour more expensive to purchase without bothering to increase the value of the labour being purchased, which is another big problem with it.Remember, it’s not that people don’t want those who work not to earn a living wage. If we could magically create more (inflation-free) money and ensure everybody had a living wage (along with sparkly ponies), I’m sure hardly anybody would object to that. It’s the paying for that living wage that’s the problem. Because that money doesn’t just materialise out of thin air. Someone has to pay for labourers to receive a living wage. And nobody wants to pick up the tab.These are some of the reasons why people don’t like the idea of a living wage. It’s arbitrary. Kinda like declaring that $30 pizzas should suddenly cost $60. You can’t do that and then fault people for going “WTF?”UPDATE 1Interesting comments so far, but they tend to focus immediately on the profitability of pizza specifically, which wasn’t really the point I was making. I was merely pointing to why people would be upset if a key expenditure of theirs (in my case, pizza, in Walmart’s case, labour) were to suddenly double in cost overnight by decree of the government. In my mind, that sufficiently explains why many people (businesses in particular) are not happy with the concept of a living wage.But the comments did raise another interesting and thoroughly flawed idea that I hear bandied about very often: The notion that if a business (let’s say a pizzeria) cannot afford to pay its employees a living wage, then that’s a signal that society does not really value the product it provides, and hence that business should, in a display of karmic justice, be demolished, since it does not deserve to thrive.This shows a stunning lack of consistency of thought. Such an argument wants to pay homage to the free market forces that must decide whether society values a business‡ product (i.e. they want free market forces to reign supreme on the output side of the equation), while at the same time wanting to prevent those same free market forces from operating on the input side of the equation!How convenient.If the free market (let’s say, for pizza) ought to be given the right to determine whether society values pizza enough to pay for it, then certainly the free market for labour (the employees working at the pizza place) should also be allowed to freely decide whether they want to work at the pizza place for whatever pay they want, whether that’s a living wage or not. (Experience over the last handful of decades has shown that employees of pizza places are more than willing to work for less than a living wage.)Either the market gets to decide freely on both sides of the equation, or it doesn’t. You can’t have it both ways to suit your narrative.UPDATE 2Okay, if one more person says I am actually comparing my ease of access to pizza with other people’s ease of making a living wage (and preferring the former at the cost of the latter) I might lose my mind!Please, guys. The pizza is just an EXAMPLE. It can be anything that one spends money on routinely. It can be gasoline. It can be health insurance. For crying out loud, I could have used INSULIN as an example. Come to think of it, maybe I should have.The point I am making is not “Muh pizza! nom nom nom”The point is “Just as I would hate vendors doubling the price of my pizza/gasoline/overnight, businesses are hating the idea of doubling the cost of their labour overnight.” That is the point. I am trying to make it relatable to anybody reading this, so they can imagine how THEY would feel if something that they routinely spend money on suddenly doubles in price. Shame on me for thinking that loving pizza is a relatable trait. :/I repeat: It is not about the pizza. (And honestly, I’m a bit embarrassed for the general level of critical thinking skills in these here parts that I am having to point this out.)In fact, in the grand scheme of things, pizza is a luxury item with a very high elasticity of demand, so it was not the best example—my bad. For most businesses, labour has a very low elasticity of demand (until they can afford full-scale automation, anyway). So please, for the love of all that is sacred, stop focusing on the PIZZA specifically. In my original answer, replace “pizza” with “insulin” or “dooberry” or “product X” if that helps you make better sense of the underlying argument.

I haven't personally used it, but I hear you can use Cloudera's Open Sourced Hue to support a "file browser, job tracker interface, cluster health monitor, and more." Maybe this will help you find your Hadoop job. ,)On a more serious note, before thinking about a job in this field, you should know and be really interested in the hard problems involved with a distributed system, both on the development and application side. I've worked slightly on a project that is in works to add an extra feature to HBase, but even from my limited experience, I can agree with Todd Lipcon's great response to working at Cloudera about what it's like to work in developing for the Hadoop ecosystem."In addition to all of the above, a lot of the underlying stuff is just plain hard. I'm assuming that most readers have done concurrent programming with multiple threads on a single node. Distributed programming is the same, except that your clocks aren't in sync, nodes crash, and nodes sometimes think other nodes crash when in fact they've just gone nuts and are doing everything in their power to break all of your assumptions.The above several paragraphs may sound a little bit like bitching. Working on this technology can be frustrating at times, but it's always challenging. If you want to just code another social app on a well-defined platform, in an environment where you can look at all your logs and push a new release in 5 minutes when you screw up, don't work for us. If you want to be challenged to write the most robust code you can, that works in very difficult scenarios, you might like it here."That being said, if you're interested in applying Hadoop, there's also a myriad of great problems and applications that are just as interesting that I really recommend getting your hands dirty before searching for work in the field. Please feel free to let me know if you're interested in specific examples but to get your hands dirty, set up a local installation, work with an AWS cluster, write a simple Map/Reduce job from scratch, look at some Pig/Hive scripts, etc etc. If you get absorbed into the excitement and can describe why such problems excite you, you'll definitely be able to convince future employers that you're a learner and can develop for the job. Big data jobs come both at established companies as well as new technology companies and there's a great deal of fun work to be had working with these systems, I wish you the best of luck on your search!

US Answer:Some added context on jobs & etc. since the original post:Baby Boomers are finding it (extra) tough to find decent jobs: For baby boomers, job hunts prove to be dauntingLow wage jobs in the suburbs go wanting, so companies innovate (a’la San Francisco & Silicon Valley GOOGLE buses, only, it’s AMAZON, this time): As low-wage jobs shift to Twin Cities suburbs, some companies offer their own shuttlesNote that these two articles from the Minneapolis Star-Tribune demonstrate the demographic problems that I mentioned below. It’s mostly low wage jobs & the worker pool in the suburbs can’t get to those jobs due to distance and costs. Older workers looking for higher wage jobs? Screwed!The AMAZON solution is taken directly from the Silicon Valley playbook on transporting workers from where they live to the job site. However, there’s a huge fly in the ointment. It takes a large employer, or group of cooperating employers, to make this process work. (Free to the workers, but still, expensive for the employers. AMAZON’s 24/7 schedule allows the buses to go both ways full, which saves the expense of deadhead runs.)PS. A solution, on a much smaller scale, was used in the ’70s & ’80s in the Twin Cities where an MTA shuttle bus would arrive at a suburban company’s door & bring the workers to and from common bus node at the company’s shift change.Example, NCR Comten to & from Roseville Shopping Center. For a short while (in winter), I’d ride that bus & its connections to & from my home in SE Minneapolis (1983 ~ 1985).(Original post starts here.)Today, I went shopping. The place was absolutely full of “Jobs Available” signs. The average salary? $9.00/hour, or about $18,000/year.Rent in the area for a 1br apt? $ 750/mo = $9,000/yearAverage transportation costs (Older car, Gas, Insurance, & repairs) =~ $3,000/yearObamacare tax/Premiums = $350/mo (after subsidies) = $4200/year (Hope that you don’t get sick! The deductibles are in the $5,000+ range)Food = $400/mo = $4800/yearClothes = $50/mo = $600/year (includes coin laundry costs)So, let’s see: $9,000 + 3,000 = 4200 + 4800 + 600 = $22,800/yearAnd, that doesn’t even cover a movie, TV, (Free) Obama Phone, or anything else. …Any other questions?//SUPPLEMENT: Additional notes in relationship to more comments:I forgot FED Income Tax, State Income Tax, and FICA+Medicare Tax. I’ll ignore Minnesota’s 3+% Income Tax, but the FED = 10% & FICA = 7.65%, so reduce the $18,000 by approx $2392, reduced from $3177 by the standard deduction (as listed for 2015’s tax year Pub 17).I calculated for a FTE job at 50 weeks of work, with paid holidays. Obviously, the job offers are mostly for PT Jobs, although, some had a fine print listing for FT & PT.The financial numbers for the obamacare costs were actual quotes for an ACA signup listing for a single person (pre-subsidy, if any). Comments were mentioned about off-ACA individual Plans from BC/BS. In Minnesota, BC/BS abruptly terminated all individual plans as of 1 Jan 2021. Also, the very same plan jumped 78% from 1 Jan 2021 to 1 Jan 2016!//ADDED: To the commenters & everyone else who reads this Opinion/Answer.The numbers that I quoted are for a single adult with few assets in the outer ring suburbs of Minneapolis & St. Paul. The wage rates & ads on the street for retail pay are also for these areas.Public transportation is extremely limited. The main expenditures for the Bus & Light rail lines are to & from the downtown areas & are oriented for folks commuting to & from those jobs. There are *no* cross suburb bus operations.Bicycle commuting, or walking, only works for about 6 months of the year. After that, a car is absolutely critical. (Extremely few taxis & they are quite expensive.)Obamacare - BC/BS pulled out. No competition &, without subsidies, the individual market rates for a single person exceed $500/mo. And, are JUMPING next year. (Yes, it was the Gov. of Mn. who deplored the explosion in rates.)Food. Yea, maybe you can do better. Then again, the inexpensive vegetables at the Apple Valley Farmer’s Market are available for a few short weeks. The Minneapolis & St. Paul farmer’s markets are also limited in availability. Otherwise, It’s beans & weens w/lots of spaghetti to economize.Clothes. You can economize here by buying second hand at a thrift shop. Just remember laundry soap & coins for the washer & dryer. Kitchen stuff & etc., too. Miss-matched second hand does work.Did I mention Cell Phones? The cheapest (non-subsidized obamaPhone) plan these days is about $10 ~ $15/mo. Tax? $2.50 ~$3.75, for a total of $150 ~ $225/year. You buy the phone. (Min cost for a used phone for an example plan, Republic Wireless? $100 on eBay. A T-Mobile Phone? $35 on eBay. (As actually tested. Used, no broken glass & works!)Oh! And internet? At your Public Library. In the case of the example below, the closest Public Library with Internet Access (during Library Hours) 8 miles away (but can be reached in an hour, depending on time, with a Bus, one Transfer, and a 1/4 mile walk).No Cable/Satellite TV, just over the air local stuff and a used TV, or a small flatscreen unit.So, here’s a job offer example (see the photo below.) It is 2–1/2 miles from the nearest rental apartment complex and that complex is another 2–1/2 miles the other way from the nearest large grocery stores (CUB & Target), albeit, there is a Walmart 200 yards away on the other side of that *nasty* industrial road.//Even More ADDED:It’s the inability to fill the jobs at the current price. This especially the case where a homeowner has lost his/her job & faces foreclosure. These examples are, obviously, tragic, but very real.Read through the many responses. Note that one (my favorite) states that folks who lost their (good paying ) job went ahead & took some of these jobs even as they went into foreclosure.I love that one as I had the opportunity to go through 600+ foreclosed homes over a 3+ year period working (indirectly) for a bank.Three things stood out. They stayed in the home until:The 6 month (Minnesota Law) redemption period ended,Winter, without heat, forced them out,or they found another job that paid better somewhere elseThey took those lower paid jobs while having (for those 6 months) an effective free rent (if they could pay the water, electricity, and gas bill)Finally, they bailed & went somewhere else where they had a chance at surviving. Either immediately, or later, taking what they could & abandoning the restIn the area that I specified, it would take two full time jobs at that wage to survive considering expenses & taxes. ‡ And, that’s why I mentioned that the jobs went wanting. Not because folks were lazy, but because they couldn’t ultimately survive on them.Note that some other answers stated “well, I was somewhere else, where it worked”, or “I was single & doubled up with someone”, or “this, or that, expense is not realistic - followed by another stating, yes it is”.

I completely understand how you're feeling. I graduated about three years ago with a BS in Computer Science and the only thing I wanted to do was work for Google. Before I graduated, I did well on a phone interview and was invited to interview on-site at YouTube for a Software Engineer position. I did the interview, walked out feeling great about my performance, and not too long after I got the dreaded rejection message. It took a long time and a lot of reflection to realize what went wrong.It was my very first on-site technical interview. I literally had zero experience with it. Thinking back, I did everything embarrassingly wrong.Get solid interview experience. Interviewing itself is a skill, and you don't want to be honing that skill when it matters most. The more you interview, the more comfortable you will get. Everything else will follow when you just chill out and convey your thoughts clearly.Think about how you'll answer the generic "tell me a little about yourself" question. After many many interviews, I finally learned that this question is less about me and more about the interviewer. Frame your answer around what they're looking to see from you (hint: brevity and relevance to the job). Make your pitch and sell it.A year later, with more interview experience, I reapplied for the same position in a different office. Again, I did well on the phone interviews and got invited on-site. I spent the next two weeks with a whiteboard and textbooks trying to sharpen my skills. Hours into the night I'd work on algorithms and data structures, trying not to make the same mistakes.I came in to the interview and gave it everything I had. I was proud of myself for studying so hard and answering the tough questions. But again, I got rejected.Wield your passions as strengths. This is one of the most important things I learned on my way to joining Google. What did I do wrong? I interviewed for the wrong job. Like you, I'm very passionate about web development. I thought that with my CS degree, my natural career path was software engineering. I was forcing myself to become a developer that would program in C++ or Java everyday when my interests were actually in the front-end technologies like HTML/CSS/JavaScript.I took this as a sign that I needed to realign my focus on web development and make that my career path. I read professional blogs, bought books, attended meetups, anything to learn more and become a better web developer.A year later, I applied to the same office as last time, but for the position of User Interface Engineer. Again, I did well on the phone interviews and got invited on-site. My recruiter told me that he almost never sees anyone invited back for a third on-site interview. Again, I studied for weeks, did the interviews, felt like I knocked them out of the park, and at the end of the day my interviewer came back in to wrap up and handed me a Google mug "for completing my third on-site interview", like a trophy. Well, it turned out to be more of a consolation prize because again, I got my third rejection.At this point several things happened. I wanted to give up. I wanted to change careers. Instead, I stopped focusing on getting one job at one place and I focused on self-improvement. I'll never know exactly what went wrong in the interviews or how I could have answered better. It doesn't matter anymore. I need to make the best of what I've got.I made two figurative career-changing decisions: I started working on open source projects in areas that I care about and I also tried to learn everything possible about web performance optimizations. Through the meetups that I was already attending, I chose to stick with the New York Web Performance Meetup Group. I changed jobs to one that focused specifically on web performance, I got a speaking opportunity at the NY meetup group, and as a result I was offered a speaking opportunity at the mother of web performance conferences (Velocity). Things were great.Maintain a healthy amount of optimistic persistence.Out of the blue, I got an email from my very first recruiter from YouTube. A position opened up for a web developer, for which she thought I was a good fit. I pursued the opportunity, took the phone interview, and advanced to the on-site round.I was back in California and went through the familiar gauntlet of tough questions. Like the three times before, there was one interview of the five that I really wished I had done better. Like a rerun, I've seen this play out a few times before and so I started to get worried.Contrary to my anxiety and the emerging pattern of rejection, I actually got the job.So, for anyone chasing their dream job:Don't rush into it. Do a hundred interviews for jobs you may not even want to prepare you for the one you actually want. Learn to sell yourself before you try to sell your technical skills.Find your niche. Identify how you can best give back to the company. Hone your technical skills and do everything you can with what you've got to keep learning and push your career forward.Don't give up on it. Put yourself on a trajectory that leads to your success and ride it out.

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